Winnipeg Free Press

Winnipeg Free Press (Newspaper) - March 27, 1914, Winnipeg, Manitoba Manitoba free press Winnipeg. Friday. Mak a 27,1914. Dyck Star witness for Crow tells sensational Story says passenger in murder car continued from pane one he was Sto commercial hotel. 8lthat to me did you. Have any conversation with him of yes we talked quite often. Reme Mocer the first time you were talk no with him. In october. We would not Tell you. Then you would not be Able to Tell me what you were talking about no a general conversation. An ,.�a?-e a re than one conver it � Ruth Kraf Chzuko during octo tour Oil with other boys. Ith Ehe a uld you generally meet him would be mostly there yes. Art these conversations be in the afternoon or the evening evening. Of v16. Meetings last any length a we 8 betimes we would Stop a while and other times we would go Nunt in and out again. And what did you talk about just " be Otner a ple talk in exhibit As the one worn by Kraf Shenko during the wild night. Dyck said Jha to the coat was torn when Kraf rent is gain ? of december. Than once. _ _ came no. He went away from there did. Of to Anaple Between you and no Only i loaned him $5. Where was he when you loaned him of. In the commercial hotel. How Long after you made him that want was u that he left town he went away the next Day. Afternoon or evening evening. What did he say to you when he asked you for $5?he said he had got broke and needed the Money and he was coming Back in a Day or two. Could you Tell me if that was in month of october or november Well it was the time he stopped that Long time. I cannot swear. I think it was october. And you say he left the next Day yes i saw him leave on the train East. And then did you not see him again when second of december. The who Lias Rosr arding the attire of Hack while the latter Coulee. Oiler witnesses examined today were about what hour of the Day did you see him there about 7.30. In the morning or evening in the evening. The commercial hotel is situated on railway Street yes. Your livery barn is where Well. I cannot Tell we Don t go by names of streets. Where is your livery barn from the hotel North of the hotel the hotel Gate is just South of my barn. Dyck marked spot or. Hastings showed Dyck a photo graph showing the Lane running East and West behind the commercial hotel. Dyck carefully marked the spot on which he was standing at 7.30 o clock on the evening of december 2. A Sec Ond photograph showing the tear of his livery barn and another showing the barn facing on Peter Street were also examined by the witness. How was it that you happened to be at the Back of the commercial hotel at that hour i was going to the hotel. Well i generally go Over there after supper. It is where i make my living driving. You were going across to the Corn rent is a Mercial hotel. When going to the com t witness Mercial hotel which is the easiest Way in i i i tens around by the front but the shortest and i i was going that the actual 4d.h-p Cas cab used on drive l december 3bp missing curtain held As court exhibit to show Perfo Ati Ort of Bullet fired to intimidate Driver. What next did he say he said Billy Are you hard up. I said no what next then he asked me if i wanted to do him a favor and i asked what it was. Now use his exact said will you do me a Little favor what reply did you make i asked him what was it. What did he say he said will you take a Friend of mine out into the country for me. And go on encouraged or. Hast Ings. He said a Friend of his was in the same trouble As he was. And he would have to get him away in the country. Anything else in explanation of that Friend Well. No. He just asked me that. When he said that he had a Friend in trouble what did you say Well c told him i could t take the Friend out i would be liable to get into trouble myself. When he said that what reply if any did Krawchenko make to you an old jew i did not see him at All. Then while you were talking with Thiesen for a few minutes where were you standing in the door of the barn. Could you see Down the Lane yes i could see Down the Lane. Of he said the fellow was coming to ref mrs. Humboldt. Who ident if red the coat As one which her husband had loaned Kraft Henko Peter Florong who he saw Krawchenko trying on false whiskers in the bar of the note at Plum Coulee Black the pawnbroker from Winnipeg who issued a Pawn ticket for the watch on exhibit to a Man representing himself ast. Kraft and j. 0. Campbell of the Wigston Smith arms company. A Winnipeg. Who fid a Man whom he says was Kraf Hyrnko. Ome arms and ammunition. The arms and Armuni t Ion mentioned were ordered in the name of l. Yack . Of Plum Coulee but Campbell identified Krawchenko As the Man who Man in the Back plur often go that Way. Way that night. Can you Tell me whether it was a. The Purchase. Yackman was also Swers and declared he had never order pc the goods. Florins s evidence As to the tryin1. A of the whiskers was Given in a very a of Iii vol manner and the witness sundered in to Many contradictions on cing Cross examined. I l l i am Dyck Star witness called. William Dye then took the stand before the examination could be commenced. Or. Suffield signified that he late something to say. My lord he said As or. Handel has been made a witness in this Case and i have de erred my Cross examination of him Muil after the hearing of this witness my that my Cross examination will largely depend on what this witness Iju Oum As k that he be excluded or. Hastings. ,.cannot see my lord he lid. What effect this witness s Evi Sivin Ani re upon the Cross examine anon of or. Handel. Or. Handel has Pii. War Ken together with chief anal to in v e r so acc this Case was opened Tiaja of Sce that he should be sex fir t blathers do y o u require h i m f h it t e courtroom. Ilii a f1?" after whispered co with or Handel i cannot or 3 that j a pm Tely require Cental in y j like to have by w l t h mater6-then under the Cir leave the to adv Crk " n s i examination or 4 Hastings had something Sardeng or " Suffield a de ferr he should be allowed that held wait for further unravel Crown s Case before enter dark night it was a dark night. And when you got to the Corner out Side the lavatory there you say you met the prisoner. How far were you from him when you first saw him i ran right into him. Did you speak to him i did after he spoke to me. Did you see him before he spoke to you no. How far were you from him when he spoke i was right up to him about three feet away. Morrow at noon and he had to get him away somehow. Anything said about the trouble nothing More. Then when he said that his Friend would be there to Morrow and you said you could not help him what reply if any did he make i Don t re member exactly. Had used threats just Tell us exactly what you said when telling him that you could not take his Friend out Well i Tom him i t take that Man out and then what next did you do then my hired Man and. A traveller came along. I talked a moment with my hired Man. And where were you when you were talking to the hired Man and the trav Eller i was the doorway of the barn. Where you could see Down the Lane yes. I did. Did you see him the morning until you put the gasoline in the car no. I went Home to lunch about 11.30. Cashed some cheques do you remember whither or not you were Down town that morning yes i. Went to the Barber shop arid to the hotel and also into the Bank. As near As i can remember it was about ii o clock that i went into the Bank. I saw or. Aronld and Bill Esau and Wagner when i went in. I had a couple of cheques to Cash. Where was your car standing at the time you went for lunch in the barn. Do you Back it or run it in ahead i ran it in ahead and it was Standin that Way then. Did you leave anyone in. Charge at the barn?.my Man was there Sam my. What s his other name you be got me on his other name said witness. How Long had you been Home for lunch about 20 minutes. That would bring us somewhere he turned around and told me that i i about ten minutes to twelve yes. Got to take him out. When i got through with lunch i went just what did he then do he p u t j Back to the barn. I live about 200 his right hand into his hip pocket. Yards from the Bara on the same pulled out Al revolver ans turned a Street but on the opposite Side and flashlight on to it. He pointed the further North. I was at the barn about revolver at. Me and said you la get i ten minutes to twelve and the Man this if you Don t do what i " " " t Lna i_4. Ii flashlight was held hand in the left hand. _ ,. Had gone Over to dinner. Ii which the barn was open and anyone could of in yes. L then went to the Tele and the revolver in the right yes. Phone in the barn and answered a ring How far was he away from you?1 Ani when i finished speaking i heard coming up the Lane not till i heard the traveller speaking. Where was the traveller when he said that he was standing along Side the car. Your car is a right hand drive it is. And in getting in your car at the front you had to get in on the left hand Side i. Can get in on either Side but i had the left hand Side closed up said the witness. The witness also explained that the would blow your brains out did he fire the shot Well it was right alter he had said that. What did you do i drove on. When the Man said calling you that name i will blow your brains out did you know who it a yes recognized i. In what Way by his voice. And who was that John Krat Chenko the prisoner at the bar that is the Man. How far did you go East up that Road up to Mccabe s elevator. How far was that from the Point where you turned East about a. Quarter of a mile when you got there in what direction did you go South. How add you come to go South he told me to go South. The Man in the car whom you say was John Krawchenko he told you to go South yes produced Auto curtain or. Hastings produced an Auto cur Tain. I show you an Auto curtain he said. Of course i Don t expert that you can prove it s yours but you will notice a smal-1 Hole in it. Sitting in the front seat of your car to your right did you Ever notice a Hole in the cur Tain similar to that i did not an swered witness. Your lordship said or. Hastings i would put this in for identification to thu witness. And when you had turned South by m cabe s elevator you would across the Railroad tracks what tracks the Midland railway. When you were going South How was your engine running in inter mediate or High ii was in intermediate taut he told me to throw it in High. Where were you when he said that just turning South. What effect does this have on the Speed the car i l l run faster on High. When he told you did you do i yes. How far did you travel South one mile. Prom the time he threatened to blow your brains out to the time you trav Elled that one mile South did he say us in i i a in c n inv isto Jack. Ice Sites to ing you cell them the i i Iken my to Dakota wjj1 be Tny l ing else Pil e a to. Cuke Yoi Tell us what rate it Speed were you ? 25 Miles o Ian it of in one mile North no not except that he said he did not want to go to Lowe farm or where there Wera Many Tol Ephon a or any place where Many people lived near the Road. When you inched the mile North what Trail did you take.?w went Over the railway track and then a told me to take the Road toward Morris. We struck the Trail Lead ing from Lowe farm to Morris. Have you any idea How Long it took you from thu time you left Tolura Coulee till you struck the Trail leading from Lowe farm to Morris not exactly. It might have been an hour or a. Lettla How Many Miles had you travelled?0 eighteen Miles from i cum Coulee Hall any Silver at that time yes he about three feet. Facing you or Longside facing. How Long did the Flash remain Shin ing upon the revolver just a Flash and it was out. When he showed the revolver what did. He say exactly he pointed it at the town Bell ringing 12 o clock. A few moments later i cranked up the car and backed it out. Why were you backing your oar out Well that was what the instructions were. You backed it out at that hour a me and said you have to take that Ranse a putt our a. . Wasi that name did he have whiskers on beside you yes. And. One Nellc South. With the mile North again thai would make 20 Miles. It would be somewhere about 1 30 when you struck that Trail yes. Held revolver in i hand. From the time you left i Luni Colof till you got to the Morris rail where was the revolver in his nand. All the time All the time. And he Nas s lying in t to front scat yes. On that run South did he whiskers on he took them off about two Miles. Did he say anything when he took them off no. And when he took them off you had a View of his face yes. And did you know the Man then other than his voice yes. On the trip from Plum Coulee to have Morris did you meet any people no. Did you pass anyone i Don t re member. Do you know what t Ime ii was when you reached the Morris Trail?1 do not. When you turned and went toward Morris How far did you keep tie t a i l East about 2 Miles us f Morris. I will ask you again who was he i what would be the Speed about John Krawchenko. Twenty five Miles. On. Are those what did you do driven on. Well i must have yes. What did you do got out of car Ana spoke to them. The that is you started your car yes. You had of course to Start your car on what is known As the Low gear the car started to move did you hear anyone say anything from the outside no i did not. Did the Man standing outside the car say anything More than " nothing that i heard. When you started to drive on what direction did you take North. Did you see anything of either of the travellers when the car started to move Well one of them was by the front of the car. I could see him through the Glass Windshield. What was he doing i saw some Bills flying around. I do not of cow exactly what he was do. He was just standing there. He might have picked up the Bills i saw him walking after a Dollar Bill. Did you see him pick anything up i. Did not. The car moved on and i put it into intermediate gear. Where were you when you put it into intermediate gear i could not say exactly. When you got to the end of that Street what rate of Speed were you going-?1 do not know. Up to that Point did the Man who got in the car say anything except drive on no. He had not spoken no. And a Nen you got to the end of the Street did you receive any instructions i did. Just Tell us what the exact words told me to drive East. And what did you do i turned Tae car East. At that Corner there is a Woodea Culvert just As one is coming on to the Road East and West yes. On the East Side of the Road you can turn your automobile and go Down through the ditch and up on to the Road or you can go Over the Cul Vert. Which Way did you go i went Over the Culvert. What did he do with the whiskers and when you sol with in Usu or he threw them in the front of thei the rec mes1 Morris which do i or t Ion car. I did you take North. He told me la Ana getting a mile Sou h he told you turn to drive East yes. And you drove your car East i did. To told what Story to Tell going Down the Trail toward Morris was there any Between you a told me something i wan to Tell when 1 came Back. He Taid i was i Ith in a a. 7 a , l l t j i i i Uit Side curtain. He would have to put that i0�k thro Fth he did did he remain in the Back scat during the balance of the trip no i for a Short time. J i Var five or ten minutes. Me to Stop. A. Mile when he Toimi stopped. Would that be the lira t Ime the car had stopped from inc time the prisoner Sot. In yes. When i stopped the car he tit out and told me to set out too whore was the revolver then Irv Hisha Iid. And when you Sot out what did you 1ovhe old me to a l by in front of while he was sitting in the Back seat did you have a in conv i s i t l r. N about the engine with him no " n c i " u c m j going. How was it you did it a still did he give you any instructions no. Only to drive faster. And after sitting in the Back seat five or ten minutes what did he do he came Back. after going four Miles can what direction did he take North he told me to take the Best Road to Lowe farm. And where were you when he told you we were about three and a half Miles East. when you went about a l f a mile further you turned in wha t direction North. Now have you told us All com or nations that have taken place Dur in net top the Liere not a Lane running through that Block yes. Had you got to tie Lane when you the run East All i can remember. Going at great Speed. What rate of Speed were you trav Elling Duhig that four Miles?between30 and 25 Miles an hour according o the speedometer. And when you turned How far North did you go three Miles. At what rate of Speed engine he told me not to Stop it. When you went to the front of the car what did the prisoner do a took his coat off and said i will leave this Damn thing he went into the Willow Bushes and hid it. Which aide of the Road on the West Side. How far in about 20 Yards where were you in front of the car. How Ion did the prisoner remain in the Willow Bushes a Tew minute s. Witness recognize overcoat. Or. Hastings showed witness an overcoat. Tajon a look at this overcoat. Or. Dyck. Tell me have you Ever seen it before i when did you first sen that to know it had f t on when John when h Krawchenko. Car. The the i re of came into the december badly torn. Why did you think it was the Man Saj that might have been past the said you were to look for Iane. Well he looked about what he de �,0 j-0u mean by that you think you j scribed to me. I could just see he had were past the Lane yes. A Black overcoat and Black face ind then you said you drive then you further i did. Up to that time did you know who the Man was sitting in the car beside when you were speaking to the trav Ycu i did not Ellers what was he Moog then he did he make any reply he did was coming up. " a what did he say he said f a b if you Don t drive you at what kind of a Rait pretty Fasti son 0"f a. I e on from that distance could you Tell me Tju blow your brains out just As i did whether his overcoat was buttoned or that other not no. How was he holding his like he was holding something. To that time was the car going fast hands no i had slowed the car up when he said that where was Theus n Nam u i Fiji i Grauser r 3 ,., a _ a before you saw the Man the second revolver which he had had m his hand time did you make arrangements for on getting into the Nad k in going anywhere with the travellers his hand yet i did. I was to drive them to Winkler and when he Cal red you _ hat i e and Morden starting about an hour name and told you wha he could do if from the time when they spoke to me. You did t drive on what did you do w Hon Vou saw the Man coming Well he fired a shot which passed close with his hands in front what did you do i went into thu car. And after getting into the car i heard one of the about five minutes. Some of your what about the Man that looked like at that time could you see the Man front seat then i having gone i n t the Bushes Ami St til Eft the overcoat thro what Dio he on do he " old me to going the the o or Ion. If wits do d w m h j or d a. A i told to drive on. What did he g l \ o you to told me to drive on and you did?""yes." what direction did you tapering the three Miles North looking Over the Money he had and putting it in his pocket had he an overcoat on yes. What pockets was he putting it in his inside clothes. Did he make any remark no and then when he got three mles North what direction did you take one mile East. What made you take tha. Direction 1 took it of my own Accord. How far w it of l la railway of 1 sen told you to take i in w Cro you Flom Morris on the c.p.r.?. Best Road to Lowe farm. Was there Adoui a and a Quarter or anything that occurred Dur ing the Millim l l e f East no. Were you As far North of Octav Atid when you got on the mile east11 tation a about that Well that Road keeps Angling for u. Hit and then goes into the Road Al did you go along to the Road Al Lowance to when the coat wish to my face and i started to drive on. How was lie holding the revolver close to my face. How far was it away when he fired a couple of inches. How Long after he told you that he Huw far did to u a North Kava wha. Direction did you take North. You Werc Kink north1 co Nunu in on a i Klught ;