Winnipeg Free Press

Winnipeg Free Press (Newspaper) - November 21, 1921, Winnipeg, Manitoba Continued from pase of department of the National lib a and conservative s personalities spoke this afternoon at clan my friends told me of a made last night by a gentle Man supporting his whole was a bitter attack on me and upon the United Grain in we can that the prime minister stocks to that sort of and i secret to see it because the office of prime min Uter of this country is an office carrying with it a Ireat the no matter what his is the first citizen of the and As such we respect course should be at All times snob As to command respect and i recent that i regret to see Mehen stooping to methods that Ironia not be a credit to a third rate want to Deal with the creation of Woros Attiat of shipped out bushels of farm without Havink paid for and some the Grain was in Liverpool and ground into flour before the their Money for it that when the was Talicen from the Stush Elsif Grain had been stolen from the Pacific that in 1918false Bottoms iad been nut in in of was the Grain inquiry you mow what that Board All the last session of member for Mac in speaking on the address in the demanded that the government should appoint a commis Sion to inquire into the whole Busi Ness of Grain he alleged that certain irregularities had eone the whole thins was biased the impression gained by every impartial observer around the House of commons was that it was a political manoeuvre and nothing a political manoeuvre it was staged at that time the newspapers supporting the novem ment in certain parts of Eastern Canad and members supporting the government in the House of com did not disguise the fact that it was expected to kill the Farmers Orr animations in Western Canada and to discredit me More than i was told by a Friend at mine in who had it from a government supporter in the that the purpose was to destroy the United Grain if nos to destroy me or land Joey was for Many years a members of the Saskatchewan gov he made a statement in Portage la Prairie that one of the commission appointed by the government had stated to a Friend of his that Thev they were not after the sankat Kiewan elevator Frith which Langley was Ridenti but they were after the United Grain and Lancley states that evidence can be supped under oath if after this Grain inquiry Board was it Kot Down to there were four members on there was of against whom j have not Hync to because i believe he is an honorable in these were in detail four Henderson made in his in the tha Tevi dance he was questioned to the Soli and there was placed on the record of proceedings material that would not have been admitted in any court of Justice anywhere As the first time that the officials of the company knew of this matter and the character of the Evi Dence was when they read about it in the newspapers after and i that it was by the merest Chance that the Winnipeg press Learned about an hour or two before that something was going to take place at fort Wil Liam and that it was Only because of the newspaper not taking any chances of missing Story that a representative of the free press went to fort that was stated in the free press by miss Cora who was the representative Down by that i want Deal with the Henderson with regard to the charge that was transferred from the terminal elevator company Toile Export that was not in the first Hender son had nothing whatever to do Wlton the our books do not show an it Woula have been noticed and corrected by our official the John Scott when the audit was made at the end of the hendersons statement in that respect is totall absolutely there was a member of the Board of rain that Board had full Powers to investigate we find a member of ill Board of Grain placed absolutely false hendersons charge is that during the year bushels of Grain were shipped out of the elevator and delivered to Liverpool before the Farmers were paid for that statement is also absolutely there was in of 1912 a loaded Rumour that 30 just prior to the closing of Taviga and warehouse receipts were not surrendered by the i might explain that in the process of no Grain is permitted out of the elevator unless receipts that Grain Are sur rendered to of Grain com missioners within 24 hours after you should the Boardo Grain commissioners has a system of registration of receipts at fort a car of Grain comes into an elevator at fort Wil the elevator must Issue the warehouse which must be registered in the registration depart ment of the Board of Grain commis and when Srain is shipped Troia the elevator the warehouse receipts must be surrendered and can celled by the registration so that brain cannot leave an elevator without the Board of Grain commissioners knowing All the Grain going out of the elevators and All the crate coming into the elevators is now in this Coleman the railway company represented by then chief Elling auditor of auditor of an capable who represented sat the annual of on terminal the Transfer question and since that Dalton la perfect by satisfied that there could have been no concealment of any Grain then in the houses Rand that there could have been no manipulation of records tothe of either party of then in ele this conclusion i fully confirmed by a careful Check which has been made of our re cords of Ith government weigh up made a Short time and of the receipts and shipments of Grain Between the Date of the government weigh up made for the purpose of adjustment of bal the two compan we Are convinced that a proper accounting was made for All of the the elevator turn Dover to Coleman letter that he is entirely convinced there was no irregularity when the trans Fer was made and that we accounted to the for every Bushel of Grain we had taken hendersons charges a statement that cannot in any sense be item relates to false Bottoms in the records were produced from in the elevator to the according to or Henderson that eight years ago false Bottoms had been placed in some of the bins in that we carried out private investigation not Only into this into All the matters alleged in hendersons i might mention that when Henderson gave this evidence at part 1 was at when came i instituted a rigid the whole in the inquiry we Able to make in our i satisfied myself that not false Bot but false might have been made in a few of the or rather sockets of the elevator in in order that Yon May clearly understand the layout of an let me say a he mgr storage elevators wit the Grain Exchange in blocking1 will to mrs Meighen these she were mind they were although Iny own purpose was to conceal from the company and there is Only Rone conclusion thai can he drawn out of up his hands in horror at that having other speakers not Grain Exchange to Stop action in the courts i depend it is True that certain firms in the Grain the that there took in was an understanding on the part of some employees to steal Grain from the the Grain not then show in the government weight up and the natural those trying to do this would the Betook How of l our own and we pushed it of our own these Are the reasons Why we too such Oun Boardo i Rector Felt that they should not Al try to get the Grain oof the Eleva Low the share hold it Orta in meat to and turned into pm this Board appointed to invest ment wig been and Date matters a wry should have been i government under the control of the Board of there brain due notice promised Justice Hyndman made this statement after the Board had finished its deliberations at that if Charse was to be brow it against any person or it would have to he done in a Legal and that such Nerson or firm woiil1 he Cimon an Olinor Tunita by notice in and Vance to defend itself and present its pirate of the now that was it Acourt with the Well establishes principles of British Justice that any particular Case there was a tie this because i believe it has been referred to by some of the government speakers go around the country making Given an Opportunity to prepare his that i in in with the True practice of British 1us it happened that nine years the Grain growers company had speeches to the effect that on warehouse receipts had not been put i knew nothing of until to or three when 1 Sot a Telegram from the Board of Grain satisfactorily adjusted i immediately rot in touch with had loaded without getting authority we got the surrenders an the thus satisfactorily to sited with the Board of Grain com in the report prepared d covering that years about the same Reghu was in endeavouring to for vessels staying at for William snivel for bushels to had no terminal ele we had a Large Lin of elevators in the Anil in order that we might have the Chain com we secured a lease Canadian Pacific railway of one of their terminal elevators at t Oil when we got that we engaged a a Man named at the time we took the elevator Over from the can Adian Pacific railway we a d to take Over the amount of Gram in the fort William hearings the Royal Grain inquiry commenced its the commis Sion had sittings in travelled to Saskatchewan and when in Western two or three commissioners by Tele wami an Pointer who was their a special to to to fort William to hold a this was arranged who was the of the Royal Grain inquiry it is Well was for Many years solicitor for the United Grain and of old Grain growers Grain com evidence of a big Grain congas and the Grain were taking All the precautions the could to avoid that they Cou o arranged to have vessels Al Ong the water front at the head of the lakes beside the before any of sese boats left in the warehouse receipts were surrendered tote registration and the whole transaction met entire approval of the scr that or hendersons statements Fiat shipping without proper sur and that we were taking Gratland shipping it out before the Farmers were paid for it Are absolutely false in every the next statement is the charge composed of some 70 or 80 circular shape which hold bushels of holding 800 to 900 the evidence we were Able to in our private in Quiry went to show that there were not but false Metal slides put into the spouts at the Bottom of a number of these the 1m press Ion which the hendersons statements were to create was that false Bottoms could not be put in without a great Many men and that consequently the officers of the company must have what took i repeat they not false what apparently happened was this in this particular Case the second slide was put in the first slide in a of pockets so that when the Bottom slide was pulled the Grain would beheld up by the false slide put in knew nothing of the private enquiry disclose the fact that there was Farave reason believe that several false slides bad into these pockets but it also went to show that some who had been in the elevator at the and still with us admit that the slides were put they each declare they have never been As personally we Kne Wab sol utely nothing about this until this Henderson statement came you ask Why was that done the inference that went out the statement that those slides were put in for the purpose defrauding those shipping Grain to the and purpose of defrauding the Farmers others sending Grain to that was absolutely first of this Grain receive from cars coming from to the elevators is All weighed before dispose of pocket the Henderson in his he heard rumours that Grain had beef since that he has never repeated this statements have been Able to and there the mat Ter we were Handicap Ped in our private this that we could no summon and compel them to give evidence under we then Fol Lowed this we had for reasons i shall state Little later that we would have nothing to do we tithe Royal Grain inquiry we asked the Board of Grain commissioners to investigate this because they have All the Powers necessary for an in Grain our private Dis closed this there was some Evi Dence to show that Grain had been removed the concerned strenuously denied and All the evidence we had was the unsupported statement of one individual in the we then asked Board of Grain commissioners to inquire into the whole the Board of Grain commissioners have All the Powers necessary to summon and they could take evidence As it is Given in an Ordinary court of to them on june 26 and asked them to undertake this inquiry at giving Thema statement of the evidence Given by Tilsman the secret hearing at fort we Lllan again on july we wrote them ask ing them to put the inquiry through at Onee order to get it disposed of before the crop movement the was unable to go ahead because of pressure or other and it was Only a week or two before i left for Eastern Canada that they advised me that Able to go ahead wit the i Vestiga in the advised to let the matter stand until a later when go ahead give them All the assist Ance the total result of went to show false slides been put into some of and that the Only reason to secrete appropriate from the if there was con spiral to steal at was a conspiracy to steal from the ers to be jeopardized and turned into apolitical football simply for the purpose the apolitical fortunes of the party in f regarding Are other charges that the company appropriated overages read from an advertise ment in the Farmers advocate con Taining what purported to be extracts from the report of the Price water House commenting on these Crerar said As i have th1 proc waterhouse company is a reputable firm of chartered accountants doing business Winnipeg and other cities in this report was made at the request of the govern by that report has never been made it was asked of in the House of but the govern ment refused to bring it tha pric waterhouse company had made an inquiry into the terminal Eleva the government was asked to bring the company report but it brought Down Only a Brief syn Opsis of the on our general wired to the department and Commerce As follows of Trade is Price Iwate houss audit terminal Eleva tors either Complete or part Avail Able for the Public if please Rush two also wire reply col want Complete copies of pos was received referring to your Telegram of the 1 6th concerning which had to communicate with the Board of commissioners at fort William i now beg to state that the audit of the terminal tors As made by the Price water House company two years never the audit time was made at the request of the min ister for his information As it was too expensive to it was never issued in printed we How an extract from this audit a copy of which enclose government uses t we got that but i would draw attention to the statement in the advertisement that this is a True from the Price waterhouse now the synopsis issued by the department of Trade and com Merce has no such statements a he circumstances shows that a a port Given out the gov its Campaign Whitti to this question o reach explain Why this oct Mentor to parliament and yet1 the department of the government to a used for political i know upon what basis the govern ment publicity of tha tonal Liberal As social bonuses it for theron Rose of the against not Only the United Grain but myself and the whole movement it is a fair and i want the editor of the Grain growers guide wrote to thedric waterhouse company with regard to the advertisement in question issued by the Liberal Chipman asked if the state merits contained in the f advertisement were a True extract from he report and explained that we were not in Possession of a Complete copy of their Chipman letter was As Fol lows a recent Adver published by the nation Al Liberal and conservative party to Price waterhouse report on the term Inal the following statement As a True extract from the report of your company United Grain growers this company leased from the c p two terminal elevators for which they paid per an they had capital in vestment outside the Dur ing the five years they received from the Sale of screening 725 from the Sale of after paying they received a net profit for the five years operation of of a taking the amount Rotthe rental As total capital investment so far As the Grain growers Are in one year they made Over 400 per and another r year they made 300 per they also dealt in contrary Canada we Are not in Possession a Complete copy of will you be kind enough to in form us whether or not the above quotation is a True extract from report prepared by your company on the Ter received the follow ing reply from the Price waterhouse company we Are in receipt of your letter of today Date con Taining a paragraph which Pur ports to be an extract from a re port issued by our firm on the of Eleva we state that thet Ter snot next Racic from such that is the Fetter from the Price company and in this gone out is made to throw a stigma upon myself by those responsible foe the publicity depart i ment of Liberal and characters of the statement is made in the Vert sement that is a Traff Roythe pric waterhouse re if itis a True i want o know Why the government handed out the report to its Campaign managers while it has refused it to parliament and if it has been handed out i want to draw your attention to that while it is reported in the advertisement to be a True com Pany declares that no extract can be found in that gives an idea of the character of the Campaign that is carried Onby the government Campaign committee in this it appears Tome that action too id that the government will not stoop to in order to discredit the has years to buildup it is also stated that suppressed report that is too absurd for me to make any denial of have read youth letter which Cama e la to that apportion so the report Hadl made t of in Tulsi but also nonpublic As Hay Ine of the fact that Ourelee Storat us has played upon in not Outt Lii parliament and by government sea Fiji Ersin province As ago that Nowelle atom Cam be operated and come out at yet end of the y ear thac t whether by country elevator or a terminal Al Plua Ora and la the even of there being a the el8 Vator is by the Grain act to go into the Grain Ket and buy Grain to Moke up suet there is Small i than la 30 on a car of wheat and a Little bit More on Pound 0 which allowed shrinkage in the handling of grata there is that in May put dockage of Centi if the elevator Peronot cleans it so that he takes out Only three quarters per has saved two bushels Ore he May Avei to clean As Loffi As the Obliga Tot Rester on the elevator to Mako goof i continued Oak sags Mem the kindly regulator regulate action kidneys and stomach of in a great Deal has been made of the and i notice the pamphlets and advertising matter put out by the government propaganda Bureau in make a Point of that assistant general Man was in fort William on the of i can i was in Ottawa the close of the Rice the general was in Eastern and sym counsel for the were 15 Miles from Winnipeg when they were told that our office got a wire from fort William saying that two or three employees had Murray did we sell it goes to the storage run into the doors Are pulled open and the Grain is Down into a inthe is dumped elevator in growers Grain bushels from had ill Al f difference of opinion mtr and his sen ices were dispensed this hearing was arranged at fort although our office in Winnipeg is not a Stone s throw from the office of the Gram Ive received no notice irom the Board that this hearing was to be it was arranged in a few came out afterwards in the injunction was known certain evidence was to do Given which would reflect bravely indeed upon the United Grain i and 1 want you Bear this in that the comp on Reevea no notice whatever that this was to be the hearing was the Young Man who was Secretary of the sat As the Bonner was there As the Hender son was called to give was the first superintendent the United Grain growers had at the Ter Minal elevator at fort Williana pit bared him in the summer of l91 Henderson about a year later was asked to put Irr his resignation Ana he put it hendersons evidence Henderson appeared at this secret he Cave evidence on Jour he said m that in he course of the company business had been transferred from terminal elevator company to port department 2 that the com Nany Hart shipped out Bush Els of Strain that year without ing warehouse receipts in its posses three members of the John Fly these gentlemen Supe Grain Henderson was sup elevator at the says can that be View the fact that he signed this than in senae sons evidence Given Nur rec Uruo replied that because Honor of some of the can Jaii civic railway officials was that that it into an Ordinary the Grain is carried along a on the and drops into the Well Hon Hopper at the top of the it is weigh and after it is distributed to the where it is this not in any Way affect Grain coming into the will remember also that the weighing is done by government officials under the control of of Grain commis our and weights of Grain Are certified to by these weighing i must state not Only is Grain received into the but Grain shipped out of whether shipped out in cars or is also by government and certified to by government once a usually in the month of the government has a weigh up of these All the Grain in the elevator Welge Dup government is done in order to the of Fiat and the amount that gone and the that be in the i that when go an ele this annual Nothe do Seal All the bins at the they go through the elevator and Seal every they Seal every bin at the top bin atthe Bottom then carryout the of the elevator tests a not know what it was he got to five trat Allme and Lehfer fort Wilham when me got to fort he found subpoenas had advised the employees f hat the Yum j not to go and give evidence unless they rushed to j not advised of of that were in any or of what j i evidence was to be and the was framed and carried out in secret for what i purpose in order that this information might into the and be circulated All Ove Canada without the its i having a Chance Tot i produce any evidence before the i it is a significant thing that this was three week be j fore the Medicine hat a convinced that this hearing was framed in order that evidence might be thrown to the Public with the object influencing that there Rea even if All these things weres Why this inquiry at Liam could not have been after the 11 this alleged happening dates from commencing second week of our real will find values which cannot be duplicated if you Are needing Furni and have lots of time to shop around elsewhere and then come Here and compare i your time come Here will be also the4bw prices quoted Tot dependable win half Price selections made now will held Byj us for you until this will not entails any extra Wonless we will arrange to extend to you our method of easy payment the office willbe pleased to in format s pay eight years is that he had been conceivable carrying this on full of goodness r could be by these false slides put into bins would be to government the Iraln elevator at the the can readily would he the Grain out he telephones to the government not it is of the Man at the top of the floor drop a Light sounding Grain in that Trofler that priced Arvyon be Crain to of secrete if the govern ment officials Aid their duty prop if to before i to that any surplus there is in the elevator the time Job the i weight belongs loathe Jules Alorton the 1 fac that no can carry on an where it handles to off Grain and come out either around for eight years disc i with somebody i am satisfied one of the Board Grain commas had information years that it was deliberately held Back until it sprung at an election in order to discredit political the Uon is frequently Stop the inquiry we took Lega proceedings in the courts to Stop the inquiry because we were convinced Iwasa for the reasons have had two government inquiries in Canada in there it Coston special committee of investigate the Cost of full and Frank our Man was called to Ottawa to evidence of heave Eviden Feln the fullest he gave evidence such Tway that counsel i the had a Given the fullest and any j what happened within i when Bye Electon Vas Hel this was taken d by government toiled All Over made misleading statements the whole the pric waterhouse company piece comprising Roh arms with to shades autumn in s special Sale 3 Biece Switte Fop this suite is in imported Floral design of Roser Spirig Arm 0 same exactly Reed Jbrown movable handle Andt lidded opt 4 inches or special Sale parlor tables Gan y top r fancy t when 1 was u m 1 surplus at a Tor by carry on an the terminal vitors it be company was Eda Garast United Grain for these last matter into j Meighen on the Public platform that we decided v the not after the i Lam but before tha of outboard of Alrec itis before in took Wholegrain the Raange Mentor the Ift Leroyal Grain were of Cal court so As it to and if became closely of Lightblue All with be special 29 18 inches f i i r25onl3rjfeamless tapestry squares m of for any or Fenu two7 sizes from beg Idar no a stepped ;