Winnipeg Free Press

Winnipeg Free Press (Newspaper) - November 4, 1927, Winnipeg, Manitoba , Vav i in Jyo 4-. We tier Crown altogether called 40 wet and occupied nearly three Days the defence i in present in its Case. Will Call Only two persons i one of whom. Mrs. Fuller has already i by Eri heard. And Tho other. Mrs. Fabian. Nelson s mint will be called rom overalls. Ing As consisting of glue Krakht shirt find dark Cap. He paid for tilt room occupied by Nelson and i Milf but did iof. Give Nelson anything helping him pack the Metal Silverman snid t was five or six weeks a so that he realized Lii to Tho Man he had Eiven .1 lilt to Goor of had caller re him up about he a l fran us sure in the paper but it do not and he recognized n the ers Box. Lot Oikari tier Timlin this i i up Fusil if tails of a y a vast Cray reused to rive do Al a i my Falls of his Birthplace and other data to the clerk of the court who needed i tin of. Facts for statistical purposes. I i in have to see my lawyer he 1 . During the five minutes . When the Crown had finished us Case. A prisoner chatted eagerly with one of his guards. He discussed the Canadian wheat Fields which he he was anxious to visit and Nidhi was engaged at that work when the police interfered and arrested him. To the officer thru the Fields of Montana and in Canada were very Simi Lar incl Worth seeing. Tiff crowd yesterday afternoon Vas of re much than at other sit Tings. Hitherto Only about 125 were allowed in the room yesterday there Iru it have been Over twice that num you present with him in the office of chief detective Smith at the Winnipeg police station later on Iol pair Civ. Hou Isi c per at Arcola. I i. He produced j hotel Kaiui if Tilic i Nina fire of . Whom ii Nail or Many years. Of a Man coming to Horny with ii Iii and he had registered As Virgil Wilson end room 20. E ver. Of res Ina. r pc a hut a one tier Mark on to Haci from Harry a second hand dealer. Peter i Clancy. Of the Regina Dice. I lot hint found in mrs. Or the a til kid every incl of Avail the Liuigi of them standing. Out in the corridors there other hundreds who to far have never been Noble to it inside. Tills moral is it is expected defence counsel commence his address to the jury. The address of Crown counsel will not be lengthy while the a Harce of t be is not expected to i inca More than an hour. It nothing occurs it is Safe Liat Nelson s Fate will be placed to the hands of the jury some time it Vil a Ppd upon the in deliberating whether be reached tonight or you present when chief detective Smith had an interview with him were several in the room at the Back of the jail in the Central police station and i was present then. Conversation ensued be tween him and Tho chief of detectives chief of detectives asked me in his presence if he had been charged and i told him he had. Or. Graham then submitted a writ ten statement which he wild had been the accused. Or. Stitt chief counsel for the de Fence immediately jumped to his feet and asked if this paper was to be filled before the witness was Cross examined. Or. Justice yes. The judge then asked what time this was done. J or. Same Day 16th of j june about 5 or 6 o clock evening. The statement written by Earlc Nel son was As follows Earle Nelson thirty five Twenty five 70th St. Earlc Nelson Virgil Wilson scratched 3525 20th St., san Francisco Calif. May 12 1808 scratched 1897 23d and Shotwell its. Agassis primary school. 22d and Bartlett stat. Horace Mann grammar school Hawthorne primary school. Lars Nelson and Jennie Nelson grandparents. James Parell and Fanny Kelson parents 23d and Shotwell its. Eagle witness was then Cross examined by or. Stltt. The accused when accompanied in Csc to Winnipeg prisoner .i.li1clu 1.i1i.1su. When you Nam he was about 9 o clock in morning the 16th of june that time. I was sure of the time. There any other persons present when you took him into the says Nelson took room under name of Wood lots groans with Gas a Crit by co is. And Relief Vinice after cat inn pm pop. Joever bailing test to when the court opened yesterday morning r. B. . . Chief Crown counsel said he wanted to j permission to recall Catherine Hill for j one question Only. When sourness. Pain and bloat j Justice Dysart save the desired inn Manl per Mission and mrs. Hill was called. No Boilow sub he. I or understand Vou this Semi that j Arp Ella Emder oath mrs. Or. Name did the the j accused give you when a room at your mrs. Said his name woodcuts. Or. Is nil. Detective on stand Alex. Callior. Of tile Winnipeg detective department was the nest wit Ness called. Examined by or. Graham detective Calder said he accompanied Nelson to Winnipeg from Kilianey. You caution him regarding his rights in the matter or making statements did. . Did you than Oit. Rorn your nearest a Iny tablets of Bis rated three or four of them next . This is a simple Hiex Penive Tefft that can be refi upon to prove value i Ive . In most instances Relief comes instantly. Pure Lusu Ratel now in Handy Tab it form1 is i non laxative preparation of a Irr. Sign Mph. , when after meals cleanses i Ivette is and neutralizes the dangerous stomach acids that cause most Tomach ailments. Your nist for tablets of Bolsi rated and startle Tess my Macing ution not Robin pfc the Back of the jail a yes. The Jailer was there and i Hinic Constable Graham of the mounted police. Q you did not caution him again no. Q that would be about eight hours after Vou had cautioned him yes. What did the chief detective say a. He asked me if the Man had been charged and cautioned. I told him he had. Q. You did not bother cautioning him again a. I did not. Q. When this writing was made what was sad co the prisoner news in today s advertisements front the classified columns Young brazilian Ringtail Monkey is for and pet furnish cd studio is offered lot rent for two weeks wished principal is wanted for Neepawa. Man s Coon coat size 42-44 is for and advertiser wants to buy Bun Galow House South of Portage h architectural craftsman is wanted at Letha Ridge. Male help hair goods toupees wigs etc., Are advertised by hair goods Corn was very Short. I asked them had he been charged and i was told yes. I cautioned him myself about three hours afterwards on another matter but that was not a question bearing on the guilt or innocence of the accused. Now do you know the words in which to was cautioned a. There is a set police caution. Q. Anything you say will be taken Down in writing against you yes. Will and May be used be taken Down and be used As evidence against you will at your trial. Q. Not anything you write was never told him a. No. Q. And this other paper that to Are seeking to have admitted is to handwriting that you were Lookin or a. Yes. Q. He was not cautioned then a. I would not swear to it. I kno i cautioned him at least twice person ally. You asked him to write Thos particular words yes. Q. They were suggested to him a. He was asked to write. His lordship the second paper Hulk should cot be put in. The ther la already in and i do not Ery much harm in it. But there j 10 warning and i will not allow the second. Or. Stltt submitted that a warn there never to your know Ledga a Man wh6 identified an individual As one whom he had seen that particular Day going into and coming out of the Patterson Home of whore. Evidence has been Given he a gentleman Selling a washing machine Don t know anything about that there was a. Gentleman Selling a washing machine Lomtev Here in that Vicinity and the pol co were notified this Man 1 believe was located on the saturday night but we have hundreds of these. Considerable confusion there considerable con fusion in. The minds Many people As to whether this was the Man not were not there All sorts of Telephone Calls telling you he was in certain places when he was in others were certain Calls by the general Public and we would Send someone to interview them. Can t Tell us How they handle Thise parades you told the court and Lury the result of All the conversation you had with the prisoner insanity Issue you get any information As to his insanity or. Graham for the Pross aution of act eco to the evidence. His lordship held that the witness might form some opinion. Or. Is not what my Friend asked him. He asked him what he had heard. To ask what no which had been Given nine hour Rev loudly did not suffice and that the also her when he wrote the secon paper was in effect being forced t give evidence against himself with of a caution regarding the o it formation he had heard As to this mail s mental condition is purely Herr that say. The question was allowed. Or. You receive in formation As to the mental condition of the accused first i heard of it was from another police officer. You Ever ask the accused about where he had previously been he told me where he had previously been. He Ever toll you he had been in a insane re Plum or. Graham objected on the ground that a statement or admission by the accused might not be used against him. Or. Stilt maintained that the word ing of the warning is that his state ment might be used at his trial. Said or. Stltt is a defence at Law and a defence of insanity is included in a plea of not commenting that he wished to in chief detective said to him he might write. Write your name address and place objects to paper for Sale at a substantial discount 13 shares in International loan company. Apply Box 1853, free press. N the morning Tell Holni Wach for the chinese Parrot weird told him that he was under j arrest and would be brought to win i it pc where he would be charged i with the murder or one mrs. Emily j Patterson on the morning of 10th of i june. I told him to clearly under stand that he was not bound to make j any statements but that anything he did say would be taken Down in writ tells of accompanying prisoner you in his company All the Way to Winnipeg j was in the same car. That time did you see j anyone holding out any Promise or most of the making any threats which would in make a statement sir. Of birth. He the Only one who had any conversation with him at the time did you believe his name name he had me a Al Roll Wilson. You swear he was not old to write the name Virgil Wilson accompanied the accused Back k Winnipeg from kularney1 you talk to him much very much. He any talk with anybody did not hear much the con j versa Ion he had. Did not evince any anxiety whatever. Did not evince any remorse that i could see. Was laughing and joking in Way is perfectly True. You give us a Little or particulars about the jollity sir i could not. Was the happiest Man the train could t Tell you. It was not me. Anyway. Laughter i might have been the prisoner i made no reply. You not swear that the j prisoner was not the happiest Man 1 he was laughing off and on with whoever sat beside him on the Way to Winnipeg. His lordship the quo Salon of Cau ton is not always properly followed under the rules Laid Down by the English judges the words Agaline you should not be used. The word should be will be taken Down an used at your but the fact Tia the witness asked in the presence o the accused if the prisoner had Bee warned would serve purpose i thin at freshening it up and after All h. Was Only giving his name and address which does not necessarily him. Or. Stltt i Jim not looking upon this As serious jut it is really an at tempt to get evidence for ton purposes under possibly a forgot ten and imperfect warning. His lordship it is All right to Gei information that Way. The objection is when it is an attempt to put it in evidence at the trial. But we need not go into a Long discussion on to everybody was talking with he could talk regular Stream of talk would not say a regular Stream i he was talking most of the Way stories and joking chief of detectives that. That properly in but i will not admit the other. Tie jury was then brought Back and the examination of the chief Detec Tive was resumed. Or. Had charge of identification parades i May have been present at one or two or three of them but i was Busy Anu could not be at them were others identified As Man in the Box Cou in t say i Don t recollect anything like that. You receive any information from Calder or Hoskyn that others had been identified Don t recollect anything Elko that. Were others suspected who were arrested nobody was Ever arrested on a charge or suspicion of this crime. Had others in custody in the police station Terret the Law As generously As pos sible or. Justice Dysart held that strictly speaking the question was not admissible. Or. A result of what you heard were any statements made As to the previous mental history of the accused previous criminal history. Said mental history. That i know of. You swear that you have j no documents from any insane Asylum in the police department have a record which shows certain things. Or. Object. I his the record is and 1 mass Lyle it May be produced j mental record or. Stiff a to you pro Duce a mental record is not in my Possession. You know where it is believe it May be in the pos session of the chief Constable. You obtain it personally no. Or. Or. Stitt thinks a ecord is in the Possession of the Schlei Constable he May get it. I can say hat. Or. Just wanted to know that they knew about him a. Not in connection with this sus is recalled to stand petted murder. Do you mean that one car elder was not taken Down and am Ned detective Calder tells of identification parades detective Gaidar City police recalled and Cross examined by or. Stitt said lat he had charge of ail identification grades. You remember any person eing identified As the accused who As not the accused. Remember one party pointed it a Man who he said he thought oked like him. Was that Man was a Man a woman. If 1 remember right. Heading from notes witness said that a Man known to the police As Sailor Malone had been pointed out to them by Jacob Garber a witness in the present Case is being like the excl yesterday what too grim Pyo Rhea gets 4 out of 5 All around people doomed through carelessness to contract Pyo Rhea. Four persons out of five past forty and Many younger Are its victims. Of Teeth and is the cause. And the results too often arc loss of Teeth neuritis rheumatism or other serious diseases. 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I believe his Netlon to told his name was _ his or. Stitt Are you objecting to anything or. I understand what 1 coming. I was rather surprised tha the other evidence came out without being admitted. His he added anything further it was n. Voluntary addition i do not know what May come out of ils evidence. Evidence or. Do you object to this my lord. On this than a tooth paste it checks Pyo Rehba you can be Titre of thousands ire keeping their breath fresh tin s Neil Way. We Promise that you la Dye Goback to Ordinary Mouth to pleasant breath with Embarrass ins doors of their own after fou have used this portion s anti septic refresh Jat. It u Crft shins ind odourless in ways. Try it no a or assists Jio and further evidence i would like to Cross examine the witness. Tire jury was then ordered to retire while the witness was Cross examined to determine the of the evidence. Under examination by or. Laidlaw for the prosecution Smith said that accused had told him he was part English of Spanish and extraction. Witness had asked prisoner to write his real name and he wrote Virgil Wilson then scratched it out and wrote Earle Nel son. At Tho request of the witness he had then written his age. His school and the names of his parents vat Ness was then shown another paper with names end addresses which he said the prisoner wrote five Days later. Cross examined by or. Stiff did Len to write Virgil Wilson you sure about that asked him to write his own name. You a Sec him to write Earlc Kelson first name did he write first Wilson Ore sure it was not suggested to him to write that name sir. Else was suggested to Hun else is answers to questions he was asked. Wrote the names of his grandma Grandfather father Mother was the one thing just wanted to know where he came from. Me this Why waa not Man cautioned police present Wert a number of or .14. Sugnet him up from the m there Ana the conversation suggested but that i saw him. But i never suspect he was brought to the poll like the give him. Station. Q. And he looked a la Tel prisoner a. I saw him bub i am Only ing an opinion. Other people have had that idea. But i said no that is not the i finder stand he was brought by the Vinci Al police for beating a train from around Bradburn monday evening. Q. He had lots or a. Yes in travellers cheques. Q. Had he any ten Dollar Bills a. I Don t know. He had Hundred doll pro railway or Money in his several you remember what he had on his shoes do you remember what kind of shoes he had on you did not pay any attention to him to look him Over and recommended what should be done with him. Was done United states consulate was notified and he was sent up care to the psychopathic Ward for q. He was crazy a. I thought he was. Do you know what has become if Nim yes. Q. What he blew his brains out at this Point at the request of Counse for the . Detective Cal in the to leave and the Cross examination was t there an individual came cown to the police station to Klent lev Man. Whom he said was a Man who and been seen at the Patterson Resi nce and picked out the wrong Man clo not know anything about i know there were several Man in ail h of Man might know i Law this one the Man s name i it. Who had been to his store. Another Man named Steve Wallah had also been pointed out As being like a Man who had been seen at 133 Smith Street. Sarle Munich had been pointed out to the police by a Man named Jordan who said that Munich s shoulders were stooped like the Man he had been at Alverton Avenue. Did he see him at River ton Avenue believe it was Tho Day of the murder of mrs. Patterson. Fact Jordan has wonder pm j since Why he has not been called As a witness. J Don t know. You have any Peop " imprisoned for a Wyllo As suspects i that i am aware of. 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